demo-log-02 contingent
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Summary
Given
\(z, w \in \mathbb{C},\quad z \neq 0,\quad w \neq 0\)
Claim
\(\displaystyle \log\left(z \, w\right) \overset{?}{=} \log z + \log w\)
Expected
contingent true at \(z = 1, w = 1\); false at \(z = -1, w = -1\)
equal at some admissible points, different at others
witness (true): \(z = 1, w = 1\)
witness (false): \(z = -1, w = -1\)
Lean proof: included
Answers (latest run per system; open code for the reproducer that ran)
| system | outcome | answer | steps (from the trace) | s | run | query (as sent) | detail | ||||||||||||
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| none | |||||||||||||||||||
| always-none | declined correctly | null | 0.0 | 2026-10-13 17:20:05 df65d778fc5c | (nonzero z) ∧ (nonzero w) ⊢ (= (log (* z w)) (+ (log z) (log w))) | null (correct: contingent) | |||||||||||||
| sympy | |||||||||||||||||||
| sympy-ask | declined correctly | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · ask → None | 0.136 | 2026-10-13 17:20:46 df65d778fc5c | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null (correct: contingent) | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = ask(Q.positive(W**2 + 1), Q.real(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(z), Q.complex(w), ~Q.zero(z), ~Q.zero(w))
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
# not Q.eq: in SymPy 1.14 ask(Q.eq(x**2, x), Q.real(x)) is wrongly False
Answer = ask(Q.zero(Residual), Assum)
print(Residual, Answer, sep='\n')
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| sympy-ask | no verdict | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · ask → None | 0.037 | 2026-10-12 20:21:28 d7af4def9aaa | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = ask(Q.positive(W**2 + 1), Q.real(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(z), Q.complex(w), ~Q.zero(z), ~Q.zero(w))
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
# not Q.eq: in SymPy 1.14 ask(Q.eq(x**2, x), Q.real(x)) is wrongly False
Answer = ask(Q.zero(Residual), Assum)
print(Residual, Answer, sep='\n')
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| sympy-refine | declined correctly | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · refine → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) | 0.037 | 2026-10-13 17:20:49 df65d778fc5c | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null (correct: contingent) | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = refine(Abs(W), Q.positive(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(z), Q.complex(w), ~Q.zero(z), ~Q.zero(w))
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
Result = refine(Residual, Assum)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
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| sympy-refine | no verdict | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · refine → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) | 0.039 | 2026-10-12 20:21:30 d7af4def9aaa | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = refine(Abs(W), Q.positive(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(z), Q.complex(w), ~Q.zero(z), ~Q.zero(w))
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
Result = refine(Residual, Assum)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
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| sympy-simplify | declined correctly | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · simplify → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) | 0.026 | 2026-10-13 17:20:51 df65d778fc5c | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null (correct: contingent) | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = simplify(sin(W)**2 + cos(W)**2)
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True, zero=False)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True, zero=False)
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
Result = simplify(Residual)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
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| sympy-simplify | no verdict | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · simplify → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) | 0.027 | 2026-10-12 20:21:32 d7af4def9aaa | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = simplify(sin(W)**2 + cos(W)**2)
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True, zero=False)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True, zero=False)
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
Result = simplify(Residual)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
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| wolfram | |||||||||||||||||||
| wolfram-fullsimplify | declined correctly | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.053 | 2026-10-13 17:20:59 df65d778fc5c | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null (correct: contingent) | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = FullSimplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = FullSimplify[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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| wolfram-refine | declined correctly | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.021 | 2026-10-13 17:20:56 df65d778fc5c | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null (correct: contingent) | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = Refine[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = Refine[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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| wolfram-simplify | declined correctly | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.023 | 2026-10-13 17:20:52 df65d778fc5c | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null (correct: contingent) | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = Simplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = Simplify[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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Older runs (11)
| system | outcome | answer | steps (from the trace) | s | run | query (as sent) | detail | ||||||||||||
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| wolfram-fullsimplify | no verdict | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.054 | 2026-10-13 16:39:09 03f5149718d0 | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = FullSimplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = FullSimplify[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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| wolfram-refine | no verdict | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.022 | 2026-10-13 16:39:06 03f5149718d0 | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = Refine[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = Refine[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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| wolfram-simplify | no verdict | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.023 | 2026-10-13 16:39:02 03f5149718d0 | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = Simplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = Simplify[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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| sympy-simplify | no verdict | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · simplify → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) | 0.027 | 2026-10-13 16:39:01 03f5149718d0 | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = simplify(sin(W)**2 + cos(W)**2)
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True, zero=False)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True, zero=False)
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
Result = simplify(Residual)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
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| sympy-refine | no verdict | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · refine → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) | 0.046 | 2026-10-13 16:38:59 03f5149718d0 | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = refine(Abs(W), Q.positive(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(z), Q.complex(w), ~Q.zero(z), ~Q.zero(w))
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
Result = refine(Residual, Assum)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
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| always-none | no verdict | null | 0.0 | 2026-10-13 16:38:56 03f5149718d0 | (nonzero z) ∧ (nonzero w) ⊢ (= (log (* z w)) (+ (log z) (log w))) | null | |||||||||||||
| sympy-ask | no verdict | null | difference → -log(w) - log(z) + log(w*z) · ask → None | 0.135 | 2026-10-13 16:38:56 03f5149718d0 | Q.complex(z) ∧ Q.complex(w) ∧ (~Q.zero(z)) ∧ (~Q.zero(w)) ⊢ Eq(log((z*w)), (log(z) + log(w))) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed from sympy import *
import sympy
SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = ask(Q.positive(W**2 + 1), Q.real(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()
z = Symbol('z', complex=True)
w = Symbol('w', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(z), Q.complex(w), ~Q.zero(z), ~Q.zero(w))
Residual = log(z * w) - (log(z) + log(w))
# not Q.eq: in SymPy 1.14 ask(Q.eq(x**2, x), Q.real(x)) is wrongly False
Answer = ask(Q.zero(Residual), Assum)
print(Residual, Answer, sep='\n')
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| wolfram-fullsimplify | no verdict | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.053 | 2026-10-12 20:21:41 d7af4def9aaa | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = FullSimplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = FullSimplify[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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| wolfram-refine | no verdict | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.022 | 2026-10-12 20:21:37 d7af4def9aaa | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = Refine[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = Refine[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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| wolfram-simplify | no verdict | null | difference → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] · result → -Log[w] - Log[z] + Log[w*z] | 0.023 | 2026-10-12 20:21:34 d7af4def9aaa | Element[z, Complexes] ∧ Element[w, Complexes] ∧ (z != 0) ∧ (w != 0) ⊢ (Log[(z*w)] == (Log[z] + Log[w])) | null | ||||||||||||
codesetup — not timed (
$HistoryLength = 0;
$Messages = {};
Warmup = Simplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
{$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
Assum = (Element[z, Complexes]) && (Element[w, Complexes]) && ((z != 0)) && ((w != 0));
Residual = (Log[z*w]) - (Log[z] + Log[w]);
Result = Simplify[Residual, Assum];
Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
{Residual, Result, Answer}
)
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| always-none | no verdict | null | 0.0 | 2026-10-12 20:21:33 d7af4def9aaa | (nonzero z) ∧ (nonzero w) ⊢ (= (log (* z w)) (+ (log z) (log w))) | null | |||||||||||||
Source (branch.sexp)
(case demo-log-02 (category branch-cuts) (var z complex) (var w complex) (assume (nonzero z)) (assume (nonzero w)) (ask (= (log (* z w)) (+ (log z) (log w)))) (expect contingent) (witness true (z 1) (w 1) (lean-proof "simp [AE.nonzero, AE.nonzero.D, AE.log]")) (witness false (z -1) (w -1) (lean-proof "refine ⟨by simp [AE.nonzero, AE.nonzero.D], by simp [AE.nonzero, AE.nonzero.D], by norm_num, fun h => ?_⟩; have h1 := congrArg Complex.im h; simp [AE.log, Complex.log_neg_one] at h1; linarith [Real.pi_pos]")))