← suite simplipy

sp-acj4-243-cond true

category simplipy-conditional

Summary

Given
\(x \in \mathbb{C},\quad \operatorname{Re}\left(x\right) > 0,\quad x \in \mathbb{R},\quad \operatorname{surd}\left(x, 5\right) \neq 0,\quad x \neq 0\)
Claim
\(\displaystyle \log\left(\operatorname{surd}\left(x, 5\right)\right) = \frac{\log x}{5}\)
Expected
true equal at every admissible point

the two sides are equal at every admissible point

SimpliPy acj-4 (MIT) rules_real.json[243]: log rootn _0 5 -> / log _0 5 [weakest assumption found: re-pos]

Lean proof: included

Answers (latest run per system; open code for the reproducer that ran)

systemoutcomeanswersteps (from the trace)srunquery (as sent)detail
none
always-noneno verdictnull0.02026-10-13 17:21:18 ba9dc4def822(> (re x) 0) ∧ (real x) ∧ (nonzero (surd x 5)) ∧ (nonzero x) ⊢ (= (log (surd x 5)) (/ (log x) 5))null
sympy
sympy-askno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True))) · ask → None0.2082026-10-13 17:21:19 ba9dc4def822Q.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = ask(Q.positive(W**2 + 1), Q.real(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(x), re(x) > 0, Q.real(x), ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5)), ~Q.zero(x))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
# not Q.eq: in SymPy 1.14 ask(Q.eq(x**2, x), Q.real(x)) is wrongly False
Answer = ask(Q.zero(Residual), Assum)
print(Residual, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True)))
askQ.zero(Residual)→None
answernull
sympy-askno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True))) · ask → None0.0412026-10-12 21:54:02 ee702ae2fe06Q.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = ask(Q.positive(W**2 + 1), Q.real(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(x), re(x) > 0, Q.real(x), ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5)), ~Q.zero(x))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
# not Q.eq: in SymPy 1.14 ask(Q.eq(x**2, x), Q.real(x)) is wrongly False
Answer = ask(Q.zero(Residual), Assum)
print(Residual, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True)))
askQ.zero(Residual)→None
answernull
sympy-refineno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True))) · refine → -log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))0.0832026-10-13 17:22:30 ba9dc4def822Q.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = refine(Abs(W), Q.positive(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(x), re(x) > 0, Q.real(x), ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5)), ~Q.zero(x))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
Result = refine(Residual, Assum)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True)))
refinerefine(Residual, Assum)→-log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))
answernull
sympy-refineno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True))) · refine → -log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))0.0712026-10-12 21:54:16 ee702ae2fe06Q.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = refine(Abs(W), Q.positive(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(x), re(x) > 0, Q.real(x), ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5)), ~Q.zero(x))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
Result = refine(Residual, Assum)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True)))
refinerefine(Residual, Assum)→-log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))
answernull
sympy-simplifyno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x)) · simplify → 4*log(x/Abs(x))/50.0412026-10-13 17:24:01 ba9dc4def822Q.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = simplify(sin(W)**2 + cos(W)**2)
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True, real=True, zero=False)
# dropped (not a unary fact about one symbol): re(x) > 0
# dropped (not a unary fact about one symbol): ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
Result = simplify(Residual)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))
simplifysimplify(Residual)→4*log(x/Abs(x))/5
answernull
sympy-simplifyno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x)) · simplify → 4*log(x/Abs(x))/50.0432026-10-12 21:54:43 ee702ae2fe06Q.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = simplify(sin(W)**2 + cos(W)**2)
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True, real=True, zero=False)
# dropped (not a unary fact about one symbol): re(x) > 0
# dropped (not a unary fact about one symbol): ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
Result = simplify(Residual)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))
simplifysimplify(Residual)→4*log(x/Abs(x))/5
answernull
wolfram
wolfram-fullsimplify solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0252026-10-13 17:24:42 ba9dc4def822Element[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = FullSimplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = FullSimplify[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultFullSimplify[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue
wolfram-refine solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0242026-10-13 17:24:31 ba9dc4def822Element[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = Refine[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = Refine[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultRefine[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue
wolfram-simplify solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0252026-10-13 17:24:17 ba9dc4def822Element[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = Simplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = Simplify[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultSimplify[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue
Older runs (11)
systemoutcomeanswersteps (from the trace)srunquery (as sent)detail
wolfram-fullsimplify solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0252026-10-13 16:43:00 3ba0dfac4bcaElement[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = FullSimplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = FullSimplify[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultFullSimplify[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue
wolfram-refine solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0242026-10-13 16:42:50 3ba0dfac4bcaElement[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = Refine[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = Refine[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultRefine[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue
wolfram-simplify solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0252026-10-13 16:42:35 3ba0dfac4bcaElement[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = Simplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = Simplify[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultSimplify[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue
sympy-simplifyno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x)) · simplify → 4*log(x/Abs(x))/50.0422026-10-13 16:42:18 3ba0dfac4bcaQ.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = simplify(sin(W)**2 + cos(W)**2)
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True, real=True, zero=False)
# dropped (not a unary fact about one symbol): re(x) > 0
# dropped (not a unary fact about one symbol): ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
Result = simplify(Residual)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))
simplifysimplify(Residual)→4*log(x/Abs(x))/5
answernull
sympy-refineno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True))) · refine → -log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))0.0842026-10-13 16:40:40 3ba0dfac4bcaQ.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = refine(Abs(W), Q.positive(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(x), re(x) > 0, Q.real(x), ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5)), ~Q.zero(x))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
Result = refine(Residual, Assum)
# true iff the result is 0; false only if it is a definite nonzero number
Answer = True if Result == 0 else False if (Result.is_number and Result.is_finite and Result.is_zero is False) else None
print(Result, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True)))
refinerefine(Residual, Assum)→-log(x)/5 + log(Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x))
answernull
always-noneno verdictnull0.02026-10-13 16:39:28 3ba0dfac4bca(> (re x) 0) ∧ (real x) ∧ (nonzero (surd x 5)) ∧ (nonzero x) ⊢ (= (log (surd x 5)) (/ (log x) 5))null
sympy-askno verdictnulldifference → -log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True))) · ask → None0.2092026-10-13 16:39:28 3ba0dfac4bcaQ.complex(x) ∧ (re(x) > 0) ∧ Q.real(x) ∧ (~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5))) ∧ (~Q.zero(x)) ⊢ Eq(log(real_root(x, 5)), (log(x)/5))null
code
setup — not timed
from sympy import *
import sympy

SympyVersion = sympy.__version__
# warm-up: a fixed generic expression, never case content
W = Symbol('W')
Warmup = ask(Q.positive(W**2 + 1), Q.real(W))
# every query then runs in its own forked process, starting from this state:
# the expression caches are dropped (imported and lazily loaded modules stay)
sympy.core.cache.clear_cache()

x = Symbol('x', complex=True)
Assum = And(Q.complex(x), re(x) > 0, Q.real(x), ~Q.zero(real_root(x, 5)), ~Q.zero(x))
Residual = log(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)
# not Q.eq: in SymPy 1.14 ask(Q.eq(x**2, x), Q.real(x)) is wrongly False
Answer = ask(Q.zero(Residual), Assum)
print(Residual, Answer, sep='\n')
differencelog(real_root(x, 5)) - (log(x) / 5)→-log(x)/5 + log(Piecewise((Abs(x)**(1/5)*sign(x), Eq(im(x), 0)), (x**(1/5), True)))
askQ.zero(Residual)→None
answernull
wolfram-fullsimplify solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0252026-10-12 21:55:24 ee702ae2fe06Element[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = FullSimplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = FullSimplify[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultFullSimplify[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue
wolfram-refine solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0242026-10-12 21:55:14 ee702ae2fe06Element[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = Refine[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = Refine[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultRefine[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue
always-noneno verdictnull0.02026-10-12 21:55:00 ee702ae2fe06(> (re x) 0) ∧ (real x) ∧ (nonzero (surd x 5)) ∧ (nonzero x) ⊢ (= (log (surd x 5)) (/ (log x) 5))null
wolfram-simplify solvedtruedifference → -1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]] · result → 00.0242026-10-12 21:55:00 ee702ae2fe06Element[x, Complexes] ∧ (Re[x] > 0) ∧ Element[x, Reals] ∧ (Surd[x, 5] != 0) ∧ (x != 0) ⊢ (Log[Surd[x, 5]] == (Log[x]/5))true
code
setup — not timed
(
  $HistoryLength = 0;
  $Messages = {};
  Warmup = Simplify[Sin[W]^2 + Cos[W]^2, Element[W, Reals]];
  GenericWarmup = Quiet[{Simplify[Abs[W] + W, W < 0], Simplify[Sqrt[W^2] - W, W > 0], Refine[Sqrt[W^2], W > 0], Simplify[Log[W V] - Log[W] - Log[V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[Log[-W] - Log[W] - I Pi, W < 0], Simplify[(-1)^(2 W) - 1, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Mod[W + 1, 2], Element[W, Integers] && Element[(W - 1)/2, Integers]], Simplify[ArcTan[W] + ArcTan[1/W] - Pi/2, W > 0], FullSimplify[ArcCot[W] - ArcTan[1/W], W > 0], Simplify[Abs[Exp[I W]] - 1, Element[W, Reals]], Simplify[Re[W] - (W + Conjugate[W])/2], Simplify[Gamma[W + 1] - W!, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0], Simplify[Floor[W] - W, Element[W, Integers]], Simplify[Sqrt[W] Sqrt[V] - Sqrt[W V], W > 0 && V > 0], Simplify[HeavisideTheta[W] - 1, W > 0], Simplify[2^W 2^V - 2^(W + V), Element[W, Reals] && Element[V, Reals]], Simplify[Sum[V, {V, 1, W}] - W (W + 1)/2, Element[W, Integers] && W > 0]}];
  Quiet[Check[Message[General::argx, "W", 0], Null]];
  {$Version, Warmup, Length[GenericWarmup]}
)
(* evaluated in a forked copy of the setup kernel: TimeConstrained would not fire here (no timer thread), so the parent enforces a hard timeout of 9 s by killing this process *)
(
  Assum = (Element[x, Complexes]) && ((Re[x] > 0)) && (Element[x, Reals]) && ((Surd[x, 5] != 0)) && ((x != 0));
  Residual = (Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5);
  Result = Simplify[Residual, Assum];
  Answer = Which[Result === 0, True, NumericQ[Result] && TrueQ[Result != 0], False, True, Null];
  {Residual, Result, Answer}
)
difference(Log[Surd[x, 5]]) - (Log[x]/5)→-1/5*Log[x] + Log[Surd[x, 5]]
resultSimplify[Residual, Assum]→0
answertrue

Source (conditional.sexp)

(case sp-acj4-243-cond (category simplipy-conditional)
  (note "SimpliPy acj-4 (MIT) rules_real.json[243]: log rootn _0 5  ->  / log _0 5  [weakest assumption found: re-pos]")
  (var x complex)
  (assume (> (re x) 0))
  (assume (real x))
  (assume (nonzero (surd x 5)))
  (assume (nonzero x))
  (ask (= (log (surd x 5)) (/ (log x) 5)))
  (expect true)
  (lean-proof "obtain ⟨r, rfl⟩ := AE.IsReal.exists (by simpa using h1.2); have hr : 0 < r := (by simpa using h0.2); refine ⟨⟨⟨h2.1.1, h2.2⟩, h3.2⟩, ?_⟩; rw [show (5:ℂ) = ((5:ℤ):ℂ) by norm_num, AE.surd_ofReal_nonneg hr.le (by norm_num), AE.log_ofReal (Real.rpow_nonneg hr.le _), AE.log_ofReal hr.le, Real.log_rpow hr]; simp only [AE.inv_def]; push_cast; ring"))